Posts by Introvert 2

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My Bethel Experience Part 3

by new boy in

don't get me wrong...........there was no one more self righteous, than me at 19. i moved to kansas at 18 to pioneer and even printed up cards that said............ .

"have sword, will travel"---------contact casarona salina kansas------ aaa which of course meant available after armageddon..

oh, i was full of myself!

Introvert 2

Hey man you're still around, your stories are the greatest ! Rest assured they had a major parts in my awakening ! It's Keith right ? Please tell us more !!

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

Have not read the complete post yet as I'm on the way out and away from internet tomorrow but look up Wrongly Translated Verses by Arne Jordly on Jordly.com He usually has a good handle on things. I don't know how he did it but the guys been at it for over 25 years a real machine ! I'll look into John 8:58 when I get home I have his complete up to date works.

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The really cool feeling of community within JWs

by Phaedra in

i remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..

Introvert 2

I think that the feeling of solidarity has to do with elitism, such as we have felt when we were younger and training at high levels in the many sports we participated in : bodybuilding, XC skiing, cycling, etc. The same applies to all high level sports, we get to the point of having maybe a higher opinion of ourselves coupled with some narcissistic traits. Walking around as if we owned the place and were due respect by all, plain entitled. Thus we stuck together and fed off each others ideals of grandeur. I now look back on this with slight embarrassment. I sure made an ass of myself !

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Haha! New employee has one neighbor who's a "jerk." No surprise here

by stillin in

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friends

the neighbor blows his leaves over onto my employee's yard, then denies it.

the neighbor's wife calls the police about anything and everything.. of course they're witnesses.

.

Introvert 2

Ha good topic ! Funny I was friends with a JW couple once and everywhere they lived, I mean every single place they ever owned the time I knew them they had issues with their neighbors due to not respecting other peoples boundaries. Plain entitled.

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Beards galore at the Assembly

by Truthexplorer in

ok, at our recent assembly, i noticed that there were quite a lot of brothers wearing beards.

not just the older dudes, but right across a range of ages, young men, middle aged men and older men.

is watchtower beginning to relax this rule at last?

Introvert 2

You bet, the more beards the better I hope the GB get the message. I also believe this to the beginning of a good game of tug of war ! Back at 'chya !

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JW's have he lowest tolerance for LGBT

by EdenOne in

according to a pew research survey ... and it has evolved little since 2007.. eden.

Introvert 2

Wow Dubstepped you've just described an elder I studies with when I converted. Their culture is so very much from the top down isn't it ?

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When you were in

by Esmeralda001 in

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i hope you are well?!

i have a few questions that i'd like to adress (if you don't mind of course).

Introvert 2

Very true Kate, an open minded person looks into things. I converted in '00 because I thought they were teaching biblical truth, but had a rude awakening with the last Revelation book study in '07 But being orphaned in my teenage years and soon having to take over a business in my made my life such that I was and am very different than my peers. Also was attracted with the hope of seeing my dead loved ones again and all would be good, any day now..

I consider myself a biblical Christian plain and simple. No middlemen, central college or GB. If I have to go at it alone outside of any sort of congregation then so be it.

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Update on everything going on in JW Land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

i'd like to start off by saying that i will be very vague in everything i say.

i am fairly "high up" in jw land and have to be somewhat careful how i word and say stuff.

sorry in advance if any specific details are left out.

Introvert 2

These people don't think before they speak...

LOL : of course not the GB think for them !

Welcome TDS

PS If you can get yours hands od Apocalypse Delayed by James Penton do it !

I'm halfway through and it's an eye opener, up there with Ray's books.

Next book is the Four Presidents of the Watchtower !

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What was your ''the last straw that broke the camels back'' moment

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

there is a limit to how much straw (long yellow grass) a camel can carry on its back.

if you keep putting more straw on top, it will finally break the camel's back.

when you are at the last straw you are finally angry and will not take any more.. my moment (to stop attending all watchtower meetings) was after the harsh treatment from the elders and fellow congregation members of my second cousin who was disfellowhipped as a teenager.

Introvert 2

exjwlemming 24 minutes ago

I think it was an assembly skit involving a group of young men. Of course, they choose the most attractive bros to appeal to the young sistas. They were sitting around talking about where they wanted to live in the NS and the type of house they wanted to live in. The theme was making the kingdom real to you. It was pathetic to hear the propaganda to put the kingdom first for the rewards later. Surprisingly, they all wanted to live in beautiful homes, with beautiful views, and perfect women. LOL. Heard that one as well a couple years ago at the Montreal ass. hall, same skit. Yeas all buff young men. Remember they are pimps, just like the by 23 year old you have to be MS to be marriage material or looser ville. I too tried to come back one last time after being inactive for a couple years thanks to burn out. But 2015 was a good year ! : March 15 WT total complete GB self adoration bunck study articles, the summer assembly with the giant 1984 type monitors on both sides of the stage, a young Marc Perron CO doing a sarcastic The Fonz type imitation saying " hey I can think for myself " and then belittling anyone that has critical thinking, the ARC with the dumb elders and Jackson's testimony and then JW.Org television with Lett asking for money. I DA'd in the spring, chickened out 2 days alter, asked to be transferred to English ( was in a French hall near my home ) then emailed the bro the following month asking if my file had been sent and never heard back. I assume they ran it by the CO's next visit and am guessing they cut me loose as I'm single and have no power over me. I read COC ISOCF COaC and even went to an Adventist meeting is how disgusted I was with the society. You can see how indoctrinated people are after you wake up, they have like a fog going on. Tried to level with a couple still in friends and an elder never saw them again after. Look of fear.

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New edition of APOCALYPSE DELAYED

by panhandlegirl in

a new third edition of apocalypse delayed has been released.

this may already have been discussed or may be old news but i just saw it on youtube.

mr penton, the author, says he has included jws attempt to deal with 1914 and their new light on the governing body being faithful and discreet slave in this new edition.

Introvert 2

Halfway through, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED ! The 'God's channel' idea started during the Rutherford era when there was a defection. Used to strong arm and intimidate as well as allow the yes men to side with the Judge to curry favor. Mr. Penton does a great job, valuable piece of objective research. Good info on Russell as well, started out with good intentions and also explains the miracle wheat. Basically he was naïve and duped.

Required reading as are Raymond Franz and Don Cameron's book's.

Good lesson on human nature in jockeying for status and position.